Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Response to "Zeitgeist: Addendum"

My brother sent me a link on facebook to watch a documentary called "Zeitgeist: Addendum" and wondered what my thoughts where, I spent a lot of time on this response so I thought I might as well post it as a blog.

Here are my thoughts.  The movie had some good things about it and a lot of things that made me want to rip my hair out. I enjoyed the very beginning where it talks about the federal reserve, and I was willing to look over some of the economic illiteracies that I saw such as the term "wage slave" that we libertarians have debated endlessly against when talking to socialists. And calling money "debt" I suppose could be a technical truth but its a fairly manipulative way of putting it.

However as soon as it started to claim that wal-mart destroys small business and machines take the jobs of assembly workers it is clear that they don't even have a basic economic understanding or they are purposely avoiding obvious facts. Wal-mart greatly improves the quality of life in the towns that it goes to. To suggest that "mom and pop" shops have a right to exist is to claim that they have a right to exist at the expense of everyone's interest. This is usually why we condemn monopolies. Also claiming that new technology takes away from other peoples jobs is absurd. New technology has only created more jobs, and improved the quality of life. Also this attack on "monetary-ism" is silly. A medium of exchange is extremely useful and the only way to have an effective economy, perhaps it can even be said that a medium of exchange is a kind of technology.

But even if we ignore that, economic principles are still in effect without a median of exchange. For example, if you lived on an island by your self and you lived by picking berries everyday, you would still be subject to the laws of supply and demand. You would have to pick more berries then you consume or else you would die. Lets say there were two of you on the island. You pick berries and Tim hunts. At first you could simply exchange berries for meat, how ever the more complex your economy gets the less effective this will become, eventually you will need a medium of exchange. This way you can simply BUY the meat from Tim and he can BUY the berries from you.

The best medium of exchange we have ever used in history is gold. Gold is durable, and limited creating a very stable medium of exchange. To call "monetary" the root of all evil is fairly radicals. It is simply a matter of economic law that makes exchange more fluent. They can call it "wage slavery" if they want, in which case I would welcome them to live in middle of no where, with child mortality rates of 75% and see if how much more free they are. Even then they are subject the the laws of supply and demand as I pointed out before. They would simply have a less efficient economy. Period. Just like there are certain ways to be healthy there is certain way to live prosperously. To call living healthy "lack-of-fast-food-slavery" is silliness.

Now to the issue of scarcity. The argument from scarcity is out dated and full of half truths. Some industries are subject to scarcity and prophet from it.  Some do not.  Volvo makes its profits from a lack of scarcity, Ford arguably does not. Also something that cannot be avoided is that scarcity is a fact of nature, not of economics (I mean economics in the sense of an advanced market, not picking berries this time). If Scarcity was not a state of nature then there would be no need for hunting or farming. There are certain ways to optimize our resources around us, and nothing to date has done this better then capitalism, competition, and rational self interest.

True, technology is very useful when making resources more abundant ("monetary-ism" being one of these technologies) but what did technology come from?  It is not some kind of independent entity. It came from competition, capitalism, and self interest which the movie repeatedly condemns.  It did not come from "brotherly love" and I don't really care if it did.  Is the motivation so important?

The movies greatest flaw is that it says technology is great and liberating and free trade is not.  Money and free trade ARE a technology that helps minimize the issue of scarcity. If you don't believe me then simply look at the issue of scarcity under feudalism as compared to capitalism. However I am perfectly open to the possibility that capitalism may become an out dated technology some day.

Many of the issues posed as problems of capitalism and money are not problems of free trade and economics but of a mixed economy. but considering how long this has gone perhaps we can get into that another time.  But in short it is not "money" and "greed" that is the root of all evil, but the legitimization of violence.  Once violence (in the form of government usually) is introduced into the free market it is no longer an extension of human beings and their interests, but the representation of some humans interests taking priority over others.

5 comments:

Dylan said...

I enjoyed your post and largely agree with your analysis of Zeitgeist: Addendum, my only complaint is a few glaring word usage errors that detract from the impact of your writing. Using "prophet" for "profit" is just one, "median" for "medium" another. Spell check wont catch those because technically, they are spelled correctly, but their usage is incorrect. Grammar, usage and spelling count, because often people wont take you seriously if you don't attend to those details, no matter how piercing your insight or prescient your analysis proves to be.

Chris Rowley said...

haha your totally right... I have awful grammar and I am the first to admit it.

Matt Sparr said...

At least there are others who understand that basic free market/enterprise is quite possibly the best solution to our current problems. There is no way that by abandoning our monetary system that we could solve anything. Our current fuck of an economy is not crated by capitalism, but through our federal reserve bankers, we have problems that in a truly "free" market we would not have ran into. Although I disagree with your "wal-mart" thoughts, because to me they are no longer helping the economy but rather putting a damper on it. I am interested in the US not foreign companies that make every item in that store. I am talking about conscious consumerism. I buy only the products I wish to see remain on the shelves, and wal-mart has long ago stopped selling products which are worth my money. Whenever I find it possible I buy local products. I like the money to stay local. This is one of my frustrations with the abundance of illegal immigration. The immigrants have a tendency to send a large portion of their earnings to their own countries, and while this is a somewhat noble cause for them to fight their own families poverty, it takes away money from Americans.

Thoughts...

Chris Rowley said...

Well I have a few of responses to that.

1. I believe that if you are not buying things for the best price for your own best interest you aren't doing any good to the economy. In fact you are being destructive because you are telling companies to invest in things that have no actual value to human beings. Or in short, if every one only bought American, they would be creating an artificial demand and the free market would no longer be a representation of human beings and their interest.

2. Trading with different geographical locations is very beneficial. If Utah did not trade with anyone besides Utah, then it would be very difficult to have cotton clothing considering how difficult it is to grow cotton in Utah. Foreign trade is taking the best of both worlds you could say.

3. Ultimately there is no such thing as "America". It is just a geographical location with man made boundaries.

Mike said...

I ran across your post while doing looking into Zeitgeist. I also agree that the film(s) make very solid points, but I also think that where the points are weak, they are VERY weak, and mostly do to presentation. In Addendum, for instance, I found it was a simplified, almost settled for motivation presented as to WHY the bankers and those that control them or those they control are doing what they are doing. I don't really expect that if there were such groups capable of manhandling government structures, causing wars, killing leaders without being noticed, and manipulating the entire population of the world without recourse that they would not be able to silence one film maker or one ex-"economic assassin" before these arguments could be presented. I mean, the man
that the film used for in its main argument was just recently doing these terrible things for an insipid, all powerful group before having a change of heart, deciding to write a book and show his face and speak on a popular documentary without any indication of guilt for what he had done, or anything in his mannerisms that would leave one to suspect that he was afraid for his life? Why was he part of it? What was his thinking when he was doing it? That might have helped get a grip around the "why" behind his superiors. His wasn't the persona of a man blowing open a cabal of bankers who were capable of strong arming the world powers. His hair...his hair was perfect.